RANGER AGAINST WAR: Yin and Yang <

Thursday, February 26, 2009

Yin and Yang

Would I lie to you honey?
Now would I say something that wasn't true?

I'm asking you sugar

Would I lie to you?

--Would I Lie to you?
, The Eurythmics

[I]t will not be a war about democracy.

Except for Israel, there are no democracies in the Mideast,

and there will be none in the foreseeable future

--Richard Nixon, on Gulf War I

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Richard Nixon's 1991 essay in which he defines what the Gulf War would and would not be about shows how far directness has fallen from favor. Today's watchword: obfuscation.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says human rights concerns will not affect relations with China because. . . that is the truth.


The Guardian UK quotes Clinton:

"I appreciate greatly the Chinese government's continuing confidence in United States treasuries. I think that's a well grounded confidence."

China, which has foreign exchange reserves worth around $2tn, is the world's largest holder of US government debt.


Yang said: "In making use of our foreign exchange reserves, we want to ensure the safety of the reserves, the good value of them and also the liquidity of the forex reserves."


"We know what they're going to say because I've had those kinds of conversations for more than a decade with Chinese leaders. . . .


"We have to continue to press them... But our pressing on those issues can't interfere with the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis and the security crises. "We have to have a dialogue that leads to an understanding and cooperation on each of those." (
Clinton Seeks Consensus with China)

We are pwn3d by China, and economic concerns trump human rights every time. Yessirree, Bob -- a radical change from the Bush era. Yet Ranger agrees with Clinton: though the policy dooms the Chinese population to lives devoid of personal freedoms, democracy in China is not his concern. The U.S. flushed China in 1949, so why sweat it now? Thanks for all the rubber shower shoes.


The
WaPo wrote, "Clinton said she would raise human rights issues with Chinese officials, 'but we pretty much know what they're going to say.'" While it is no lie, it is a statement of resignation.

Maybe such frankness is the better part of negotiations, kind of a Neuro Linguistic Programmatic approach, a veiled challenge. Maybe you will not do better, but we who wish you would will ask about it. Maybe that is the correct limit of diplomacy.
One thing is for sure: We are not going to force your hand while you're floating our bonds.

Now, if you are all on board still with the honeymoon idea of "Change," realpolitik leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. But the fact is, the U.S. is no longer the Big Superpower who can pull out big ideological guns; we neither have them free at the moment, nor have we been living by such high falutin' principles for a while now.


The thing that rubs Ranger the wrong way is the hypocrisy and shadow dancing. The U.S. is ostensibly fighting for democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan, yet does not seem to mind that our most favored trading partner trammels on the rights of its citizens every day of the week.


This is also schizophrenic.
We either fight for democracy, or we do not. It is not a pick and choose concept. We spend 100's of billions of dollars fighting wars ostensibly to secure freedom in one part of the world, while borrowing the money to fight these wars from an undemocratic country in another part of the world.

The supreme irony is the Afghanis and Iraqis will not have democracy if it were served up on a platter, while the Chinese are clamoring for those same freedoms. But we will not facilitate that, because we are economically hamstrung, because the Chinese would not allow it.


Because we are traitors to our voiced cause.


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Follow-on:

When did Clinton have "those kinds of conversations
for more than a decade with Chinese leaders"?
She was on the Budget and Armed Services Committee while in the Senate.

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7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's always been about $ or religon which still about the $. The new boss is different than the old boss but there is plenty of room for improvement.
jo6pac

Thursday, February 26, 2009 at 11:22:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Fasteddiez said...

Ranger:

"Because we are traitors to our voiced cause."

Well not I anyways: that particular voiced cause Shite is dulcet tones by which to lull the droolers into red white N Blue Stupefication.

Ole' kilt wearin' Historian and would be economist Niall Ferguson has created the word "CHIMERICA" (I wonder if it's to be a Chimera?).

See Here

According to Liam, it seems Like we'll be swappin' spit with them Confucians for a while, until or unless we get too profligate again.

That Democracy shell game Scheiss is for the little countries Our Genruls like to beat up on. Petraeus is the gold standard for this type of manly Trompe L'oeuil, which features a bunch of senior officer end of tour medals to bedazzle the congresscritters with.

Friday, February 27, 2009 at 12:50:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

damn my eyes though, i'm enough of an ancient luddite that i actually remember when senior and even general officers used to get themselves shot on a pretty regular basis.

i went on a 2 week 12 man team lrrp with a full commander in charge, his exec was a lt. commander.

as an e1, i was junior man. that's how we rolled.

there have been beaucoup economists who have been warning about the consequences of mortgaging our ass(etts for the delicate) to the chinese.

so, we shall see what we shall see. the looming spectre of disinflation following a round of hyperinflation as they try to print and spend their way out of this debacle is real.

coming back from one lrrp i began my report with

i have seen the enemy. charlie has teeth.

Friday, February 27, 2009 at 1:10:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

typo typo typo

e6 not e1, i was trying to translate to army ranks...

e6 (first class) = first sgt.

Friday, February 27, 2009 at 1:11:00 AM GMT-5  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...yet does not seem to mind that our most favored trading partner trammels on the rights of its citizens every day of the week."

Well, Ranger, on one hand, I see what you mean, but on the other hand the history of China has usually been...well...heavy handed.
So given the history of China, compared to what the Chinese are living out today...they are...well, a lot better off than their grand parents.
Not excusing the methodology of their criminal justice system which imo is just absolutely arbitrary if not out right capricious.
But with time comes change.

"while borrowing the money to fight these wars from an undemocratic country in another part of the world."

Or even worse, we become something like them?
I know, we're not there yet, but we seem to be...oh...what is it I'm alluding too?
Um...hmm...we, being our collective national conscience that is, seem to have this bi-polar excitement about spreading freedom that borders on the manic, and yet have this obsessive, irrational fear that someone may not like us and thus not want us in their country, which depresses us into some kind of wierd funk that makes us think that everyone is out to get us.

"But we will not facilitate that, because we are economically hamstrung, because the Chinese would not allow it."

Well, I think we need to understand the mentality...the Chinese (educated class at least who has the money) come and go out of their country at will, but for whatever reason accept the limitations of their governments demands for obedience when they return.
I'm still studying this aspect of their history of why it is the Chinese, by all rights, not cocooned by a repressive government that has imposed a Soviet style Iron Curtain that disallows anyone to getting out alive, are willing to return to a known entity that actively denies certain expressions of individuality.

"Because we are traitors to our voiced cause."

As for us...I think you are on to something...we need to get our own house in order before we try and set anothers straight.

Friday, February 27, 2009 at 11:23:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger Ael said...

Irrespective of the financial issues, an american official lecturing the chinese about violations of human rights does seem somewhat hypocritical.

Anyone know how many people we have locked up in Baghram?

Friday, February 27, 2009 at 12:58:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Rez Dog said...

"Democracy" is the lipstick we put on the pig of our militarism.

Friday, February 27, 2009 at 3:19:00 PM GMT-5  

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